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Tuesday, October 19, 2004

 Kerry excommunicated?

A Vatican congregation has given a boost to the case for heresy against presidential candidate John Kerry for his support of the right to abortion.

A letter by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (originally known as the Inquisition), states that Catholic politicians who persist in supporting the right to abortion are "automatically excommunicated:"
Consequently, if a Catholic publicly and obstinately supports the civil right to abortion, knowing that the Church teaches officially against that legislation, he or she commits that heresy envisioned by Can. 751 of the Code. Provided that the presumptions of knowledge of the law and penalty (Can. 15, § 2) and imputability (Can. 1321, § 3) are not rebutted in the external forum, one is automatically excommunicated according to Can. 1364, § 1.
The letter goes even further in specifying that any baptized Catholic who publicly states, "I’m personally opposed, but I support a woman’s right to choose," is in fact presumed by Canon Law to be guilty of heresy. The often cited "Cuomo" defense. A pro-choice Catholic politician who says that he is "personally opposed" to the act of abortion itself still commits Heresy by publicly supporting the civil right to choose abortion.

I get the sense this ain't over yet. Check back later for further developments.


Blogger Sean Robertson said...

You know, it would be really nice if the religionists would stay the f***ing h*** out of politics. They have absolutely no right to force RELIGIOUS beliefs on non-believers. If they really want to stop abortion, they should try getting involved in the communities and educating people and providing better alternatives. Suggesting that a politician should be excommunicated for upholding the constitution is positively OUTRAGEOUS. I can't even begin to express my anger at the very suggestion that that is what should be done. United States policy foreign or domestic will be dictated by the catholic church or any other only over my dead body. When we've lost that fight, there's no America left worth having anyway.

Why can't these fundamentalists get it through their thick skull that religion is only supposed to guide your own personal actions? You do not use it as a weapon against non-believers! They scream bloody murder when they think atheists are trying to impose their values on society, but they don't hesitate to do it themselves. God, how I HATE hypocrisy.

Law must be dictated by logic and ethics as they relate to the protection of the rights of individuals, nothing else. Religion does not enter into that equation anywhere, other than that it should guide you to respect the rights and dignity of ALL God's children, believers and non-believers alike. Victimless "morality" crimes are absurd and illogical by definition.

As for abortion itself, the only debate possible here is one of at what point the fetus becomes alive to the point that it is more than simply an unthinking clump of cells. This is a scientific debate, not a religious one. I would suggest that the cutoff should be at the point at which it acheives sentience. Even that, however, is extremely generous, as we do kill sentient creatures every day without compunction for all manner of reasons far less weighty than the ones which lead to abortion. Are all the members of the Inquisition vegetarians? I rather doubt it.

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Suggesting that a politician should be excommunicated for upholding the constitution is positively OUTRAGEOUS."

How is that outrageous? In case you hadn't notice, the Catholic faith is pretty strict on its members adhering to the beliefs of their religion. Just because the person is a politician doesn't give them a "free pass" to make what the church views as heretical statements. Abortion is a VERY important issue to the Catholic church and it is not swayed by the fact that upholding the church's stance on abortion might hurt one of its members chances in a secular political race. Actually, like it or not, the church is going to take a HARSHER view on very public and prominent figures who belong to the Catholic faith that espouse a view that is so directly in opposition to the tenets of the church. At some point the person doing so is going to have to make a decision about what is more important to them - remaining in the church or garnering political favor.

4:06 PM  

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